Good point, well made.Big D wrote:Although injured, I think Ian Bell is still going?Mellsblue wrote:Trescothick plays his final first class match this weekend. What a career. Probably my favourite batsman and the last player (I think) from that Ashes series to retire. It might just be me but it’s one of those sporting retirements that marks the end of a special/iconic sporting team/occasion.
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His contribution to that series was easily forgotten. A couple of decent 50's IIRC but that was it.Mellsblue wrote:Good point, well made.Big D wrote:Although injured, I think Ian Bell is still going?Mellsblue wrote:Trescothick plays his final first class match this weekend. What a career. Probably my favourite batsman and the last player (I think) from that Ashes series to retire. It might just be me but it’s one of those sporting retirements that marks the end of a special/iconic sporting team/occasion.
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I’m also disinclined to to remember a man who was nicknamed the Sherminator amongst the Aussies. That brought shame upon our entire nationBig D wrote:His contribution to that series was easily forgotten. A couple of decent 50's IIRC but that was it.Mellsblue wrote:Good point, well made.Big D wrote:
Although injured, I think Ian Bell is still going?
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Indeed, though his 'i've been called worse.. ' response toMellsblue wrote: I’m also disinclined to to remember a man who was nicknamed the Sherminator amongst the Aussies. That brought shame upon our entire nation
the Sledgeroo was good form.
5 Ashes-win involvement is some record - though not normally in the headlines at the time.
Classy, correct player albeit frustrating at times in the 1-day versions for club & country, by not chancing his arm a bit when the run-rate was slipping. ( imho).
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He'd walk into the current team at his best, and many other teams from other eras.Galfon wrote:Indeed, though his 'i've been called worse.. ' response toMellsblue wrote: I’m also disinclined to to remember a man who was nicknamed the Sherminator amongst the Aussies. That brought shame upon our entire nation
the Sledgeroo was good form.
5 Ashes-win involvement is some record - though not normally in the headlines at the time.
Classy, correct player albeit frustrating at times in the 1-day versions for club & country, by not chancing his arm a bit when the run-rate was slipping. ( imho).
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He would possibly captain this side.Banquo wrote:He'd walk into the current team at his best, and many other teams from other eras.Galfon wrote:Indeed, though his 'i've been called worse.. ' response toMellsblue wrote: I’m also disinclined to to remember a man who was nicknamed the Sherminator amongst the Aussies. That brought shame upon our entire nation
the Sledgeroo was good form.
5 Ashes-win involvement is some record - though not normally in the headlines at the time.
Classy, correct player albeit frustrating at times in the 1-day versions for club & country, by not chancing his arm a bit when the run-rate was slipping. ( imho).
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Champagne Super-over #2..!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/50363945
Good leader is that Morgan & good experience for a few newbies out there.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/50363945
Good leader is that Morgan & good experience for a few newbies out there.
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I know it is against a lower standard of opposition but good to see Sibley and Crawley hit tons in the warm up game.
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Do well to save this one..even Leitch has a watchman-wobble.
Over 260 for the 7th wicket raises familar qustions about
astute stewardship of his bowling attack.(JR), but also the batsmen's ability to knuckle down and grind out a commanding total.
Over 260 for the 7th wicket raises familar qustions about
astute stewardship of his bowling attack.(JR), but also the batsmen's ability to knuckle down and grind out a commanding total.
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Fair play to NZ for putting in a huge effort and actually playing some test cricket, not a lot of teams do that
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Not sure what this Watling chap is up to hanging around for 473 balls. Doesn’t he know you’re meant to swipe at anything not on middle stump and then play a stupid shot to get yourself out as soon as your strike rate falls below 80. Amateur.
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It seems even a dubious BJ is considered better than none at all, given the lead in the polls.zer0 wrote:Everyone loves a good BJ.

Need some heroics now to bat out the last day - Root's back in the hutch already..
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Nicely balanced test, this.
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Well played inzid.
Silverwood has some familiar problems to solve.
Silverwood has some familiar problems to solve.
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You don't say.Banquo wrote:Well played inzid.
Silverwood has some familiar problems to solve.
Embarrassing, really.
Poor bowling, terrible batting.
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Thats a hammering.
After a goodish 1st day the team have folded badly.
We have a recurring, long running problem with applying ourselves consistently, both with bat and ball.
After a goodish 1st day the team have folded badly.
We have a recurring, long running problem with applying ourselves consistently, both with bat and ball.
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Steady enough start but Latham and the rain appear to have stymied Eng chances...
meanwhile this fella (Rahkeem Cornwall, 22st. heaviest Test player) had a good run out for Windies vs Afg., with 10 wkts & 3 catches..

meanwhile this fella (Rahkeem Cornwall, 22st. heaviest Test player) had a good run out for Windies vs Afg., with 10 wkts & 3 catches..

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I remain unconvinced that picking a side without a spinner is a good or even acceptable idea
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as was sending Bairstow to SA, leaving us with an at best part time keeper once Buttler is injured.Digby wrote:I remain unconvinced that picking a side without a spinner is a good or even acceptable idea
Root's captaincy has to be questioned, once more. Test debutant comes to the crease, and he introduces.....Joe Denly- I know he was saving seamers for the new ball, but those overs gave Mitchell time to settle and gave NZ some momentum when they'd lost two wickets quickly; Archer imo is not being managed well either.
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Worse news about Leach going to hospital, if that bug spreads through the side we're not going to have any seamers.Banquo wrote:as was sending Bairstow to SA, leaving us with an at best part time keeper once Buttler is injured.Digby wrote:I remain unconvinced that picking a side without a spinner is a good or even acceptable idea
Root's captaincy has to be questioned, once more. Test debutant comes to the crease, and he introduces.....Joe Denly- I know he was saving seamers for the new ball, but those overs gave Mitchell time to settle and gave NZ some momentum when they'd lost two wickets quickly; Archer imo is not being managed well either.
And Root doesn't impress as a captain, even before one considers he was a ver good batsman before taking on the much bigger role
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Yeah, I’m firmly in the Root out camp now. But for who? Buttler?Digby wrote:Worse news about Leach going to hospital, if that bug spreads through the side we're not going to have any seamers.Banquo wrote:as was sending Bairstow to SA, leaving us with an at best part time keeper once Buttler is injured.Digby wrote:I remain unconvinced that picking a side without a spinner is a good or even acceptable idea
Root's captaincy has to be questioned, once more. Test debutant comes to the crease, and he introduces.....Joe Denly- I know he was saving seamers for the new ball, but those overs gave Mitchell time to settle and gave NZ some momentum when they'd lost two wickets quickly; Archer imo is not being managed well either.
And Root doesn't impress as a captain, even before one considers he was a ver good batsman before taking on the much bigger role
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Root out as captain, or out of the side? For myself I'd be more than willing to let him play as a batsman, but if he wanted some time off that'd be fine too. Apart from anything else we don't have anyone else we could turn to who has the ability to average 55+Stom wrote:Yeah, I’m firmly in the Root out camp now. But for who? Buttler?Digby wrote:Worse news about Leach going to hospital, if that bug spreads through the side we're not going to have any seamers.Banquo wrote: as was sending Bairstow to SA, leaving us with an at best part time keeper once Buttler is injured.
Root's captaincy has to be questioned, once more. Test debutant comes to the crease, and he introduces.....Joe Denly- I know he was saving seamers for the new ball, but those overs gave Mitchell time to settle and gave NZ some momentum when they'd lost two wickets quickly; Archer imo is not being managed well either.
And Root doesn't impress as a captain, even before one considers he was a ver good batsman before taking on the much bigger role
I've no idea who else could be captain, but if they're equally as bad and Root's batting average went back up I'd be happy to trade anyway
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Out as captain.Digby wrote:Root out as captain, or out of the side? For myself I'd be more than willing to let him play as a batsman, but if he wanted some time off that'd be fine too. Apart from anything else we don't have anyone else we could turn to who has the ability to average 55+Stom wrote:Yeah, I’m firmly in the Root out camp now. But for who? Buttler?Digby wrote:
Worse news about Leach going to hospital, if that bug spreads through the side we're not going to have any seamers.
And Root doesn't impress as a captain, even before one considers he was a ver good batsman before taking on the much bigger role
I've no idea who else could be captain, but if they're equally as bad and Root's batting average went back up I'd be happy to trade anyway