2031 World Cup Bid

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General Zod
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2031 World Cup Bid

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Fancy it? I think it would be class.

Roping in football grounds, we have at least 3 in Glasgow, 3 in Edinburgh, 1 realistically in Dundee (there may be a new stadium there by then), 1 in Aberdeen (new), and one in Inverness (the newly-professional Highland Chiefs’ Black Isle Brewery Megadome). We could upgrade one of the borders’ grounds for the tournament (and for future use for professional rugby/ big 7s tourneys in the borders). Could probably allow england to play in Newcastle if we had to, but I don’t think we would, as France are only using 9 grounds for theirs.

I don’t think we’d need to co-host either. Ireland’s failed bid for 2023 seemed feasible, and our infrastructure is better than theirs. We may need to be nice to them to get their vote though! :lol:

A re-vamped Murrayfield (paid for by the all-new Scottish national lottery :roll: ;) seeing as we got fvck all compared to Wales and England out of its previous incarnation?!). 90,000 capacity based on something like the Cowboys’ stadium would be good!

Is lockdown sending me mad? Is it feasible? Or would we end up doing a load of groundwork before the personal intervention of Eternal President Trump sees it awarded to the USA?
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2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
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Reckon that a Scottish world cup would be great. If Qatar can do a football world cup then surely we could pull it off. I actually think having loads of matches in the same city at multiple stadiums would be brilliant. Hotel rooms would be a challenge.

No chance we'll bid for it or get it though. Not enough capital to do deals with.
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septic 9 wrote:2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

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Puja wrote:
septic 9 wrote:2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

Puja
probably on the money for 2031.

On 2035 don't think it would go back to France so soon, or Japan. By that time WR will be up for Qatar or something so stupid I won't be bovvered with rugby..

More seriously inviting bids so far ahead makes no sense to me - so many things can change in so many ways. I'd personally like to see a serious effort to support Italy, and a RWC would be a proper boost. Plenty of stadia, easy travel around, plenty of hotels and eateries and easy to get to for travelling fans.
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General Zod wrote:Fancy it? I think it would be class.

Roping in football grounds, we have at least 3 in Glasgow, 3 in Edinburgh, 1 realistically in Dundee (there may be a new stadium there by then), 1 in Aberdeen (new), and one in Inverness (the newly-professional Highland Chiefs’ Black Isle Brewery Megadome). We could upgrade one of the borders’ grounds for the tournament (and for future use for professional rugby/ big 7s tourneys in the borders). Could probably allow england to play in Newcastle if we had to, but I don’t think we would, as France are only using 9 grounds for theirs.
we don't have 2 in Glasgow. Ibrox pitch is not big enough. New stadiums in other places need enough capacity. There have been in previous RWCs some smaller grounds, but not most of them. Its more than ever about money and bigger grounds needed, the fewer grounds used the fewer smallish ones can be accommodated. With that in mind if the SRU did bid it would be very sensible to get agreement to include St James Park but not to give England home games :twisted:

I'd love to see a RWC here but can't see it - the financial guarantees are substantial for a non independent country's devolved administration, and I very much doubt we'd get guarantees from Westminster as they continue on their latest attempt to run the economy into the ground
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Puja wrote:
septic 9 wrote:2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

Puja
I think there is a decent chance of it going to the USA, but for any other smaller rugby nation putting up the financial guarantees is a massive risk knowing you are likely to be dicked out in the group stages and home interest may fall away.

It is definitely time for someone in the Americas to host it.
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Big D wrote:
Puja wrote:
septic 9 wrote:2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

Puja
I think there is a decent chance of it going to the USA, but for any other smaller rugby nation putting up the financial guarantees is a massive risk knowing you are likely to be dicked out in the group stages and home interest may fall away.

It is definitely time for someone in the Americas to host it.
For what it’s worth, I agree that it should go to the Americas soon, and also think that 2027 will go to Australia, as world rugby will probably want to help them out. They’re in financial doo-doo and player numbers are dropping. A RWC in their own back yard may help out with that (if they get out the group stage!).

So if we see it as fatalistic that Aus 2027 and USA/ Canada 2031 are out of reach (despite the above, I don’t), we may be looking at 2039 if they stick with a north-south split! Hopefully, Toony and Finn will have made up by then.
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Big D wrote:
Puja wrote:
septic 9 wrote:2027 WC is going to Aus. You heard it here first
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

Puja
I think there is a decent chance of it going to the USA, but for any other smaller rugby nation putting up the financial guarantees is a massive risk knowing you are likely to be dicked out in the group stages and home interest may fall away.

It is definitely time for someone in the Americas to host it.
I think there's a chance that the US could have an okay team by 2031 - they'll have had 13 years of having a professional league (hopefully) and the youth and school development that the MLR sides are doing now will have lead to players who have a defined pathway through college and straight into professional environments. They won't be RWC contenders, but with a favourable group (and anyone think the IRB won't have their thumb on the scale for that draw?) I could see them getting to the quarters.

Of course, that relies on MLR continuing to survive, which isn't guaranteed in a 3 year old league.

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Puja wrote:
Big D wrote:
Puja wrote:
And 2031 is going to the USA, while 2035 will go to a big money-spinning nation to alleviate the risk of 2031 - so probably England or France or maybe Japan.

Have you considered bidding for 2039?

Puja
I think there is a decent chance of it going to the USA, but for any other smaller rugby nation putting up the financial guarantees is a massive risk knowing you are likely to be dicked out in the group stages and home interest may fall away.

It is definitely time for someone in the Americas to host it.
I think there's a chance that the US could have an okay team by 2031 - they'll have had 13 years of having a professional league (hopefully) and the youth and school development that the MLR sides are doing now will have lead to players who have a defined pathway through college and straight into professional environments. They won't be RWC contenders, but with a favourable group (and anyone think the IRB won't have their thumb on the scale for that draw?) I could see them getting to the quarters.

Of course, that relies on MLR continuing to survive, which isn't guaranteed in a 3 year old league.

Puja
I don't think they've been a bad side the last 2 or 3 years. Hardly world beating but usually you need to turn up to beat them. Scotland of all unions knows this!
And that was built without MLR - but I agree its continuation would make a difference. The biggest difference would be mutual - a pro league growing in strength and experience - but imagine the extra investment that could go into it on the back of being awarded a RWC a few years down the line. Could be the making for them.

A RWC is a licence to print money, I could see a huge increase in investment to assure a return and loads of US investors keen to get in on the act
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Perth, Inverness & Aberdeen have the infrastructure to handle that kind of tourism but perhaps not the stadia.
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What, has Perth got two tea-rooms now?
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