Eng v. Ire - Match thread

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

jngf wrote:
Banquo wrote:Not sure I like the jj as blind side wing thing. Too many backs end up in unfamiliar places
He doesn’t quite have the top end gas for that role imo.

You don’t understand what that role was then.

16th man · Post by **16th man** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Gauzere's not helped the front rows with the complete lack of any rhythm to the scrum instructions

Galfon · Post by **Galfon** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Pretty unconvincing 2nd. half.

16th man · Post by **16th man** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Galfon wrote:Pretty unconvincing 2nd. half.

Looked like we just wanted a defending training drill.

jngf · Post by **jngf** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

England win but boy do they make it look dull

Mikey Brown · Post by **Mikey Brown** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Galfon wrote:Hard Dunn-by..

I just don't get it. A personal vendetta against him by Jones is genuinely the most logical conclusion I can come to. We know LCD picks up injuries pretty frequently. Why not actually take a serious look at the next guy?

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Idk why we don't just play 12 forwards, Youngs, Faz and May

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm

I find a defence like that pretty entertaining. Outstanding defence!

Also I thought we didn’t compete at the breakdown?

Galfon · Post by **Galfon** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm

FT Eng 18 - 7 Ire
Much tougher test. Excellent defence, but no tries 2nd half, hence no BP. Workmanlike+.

Mr Mwenda · Post by **Mr Mwenda** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:55 pm

Yeah, good to see some improvement. Ireland aren't a bad side so a decent day at the office, rackon.

Raggs · Post by **Raggs** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:57 pm

Little time with ball in hand in attacking positions but loved seeing us attack from our own 22.

Phenomenal defence and we're clearly approaching the breakdown differently with a lot of players having a bite and forcing opposition to commit players.

Enjoyed that.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:57 pm

Pundits saying our back row made 74 tackles, missing 0.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:58 pm

Epaminondas Pules wrote:I find a defence like that pretty entertaining. Outstanding defence!

Also I thought we didn’t compete at the breakdown?

Lolz. Quite a few myths debunked today!!

Youngs resorted to type and Faz was poor. Penalties an issue.

But sort of odd to not have much ball but feel you are on the front fooot!

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:58 pm

I know Willis can feel slightly hard done by, but jeez Underhill, Curry and Earl were all outstanding.

Raggs · Post by **Raggs** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:59 pm

If Willis couldn't train for me its the right call and that's coming as one of Willis' biggest fans.

16th man · Post by **16th man** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:00 pm

Banquo wrote:
Epaminondas Pules wrote:I find a defence like that pretty entertaining. Outstanding defence!

Also I thought we didn’t compete at the breakdown?
Lolz. Quite a few myths debunked today!!

Youngs resorted to type and Faz was poor. Penalties an issue.

But sort of odd to not have much ball but feel you are on the front fooot!

The blitz defence was excellent. Helped by Ireland not trying the chip until after 70 minutes.

fivepointer · Post by **fivepointer** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:02 pm

Cant fault our defensive effort.
Well done to May on his tries.
And that was enough to win despite losing line outs, giving away a stream of penalties, losing the 2nd half and displaying virtually nothing in attack in the second period.
We establish dominance and then coast along while out opponents catch up - see Wales and Ireland at home in the 6N's.
Its just a bit....unsatisfying.
Another absolutely shit trend is giving Tom Dunn less than 2 minutes at the end of a game.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:03 pm

Raggs wrote:Little time with ball in hand in attacking positions but loved seeing us attack from our own 22.

Phenomenal defence and we're clearly approaching the breakdown differently with a lot of players having a bite and forcing opposition to commit players.

Enjoyed that.

Agree with the first two parts. I didn’t enjoy the penalties or a lot of our half back play; the pack was phenomenal generally, though concentration at set piece time was lacking sometime, Jamie’s arrows a bit off. May done well, being a full time openside is hard work! Lawrence did ok, not much else happening in the backs.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:04 pm

16th man wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Epaminondas Pules wrote:I find a defence like that pretty entertaining. Outstanding defence!

Also I thought we didn’t compete at the breakdown?
Lolz. Quite a few myths debunked today!!

Youngs resorted to type and Faz was poor. Penalties an issue.

But sort of odd to not have much ball but feel you are on the front fooot!
The blitz defence was excellent. Helped by Ireland not trying the chip until after 70 minutes.

They did work one earlier, so have to question who was sweeping

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:05 pm

Epaminondas Pules wrote:I know Willis can feel slightly hard done by, but jeez Underhill, Curry and Earl were all outstanding.

Billy worked his socks off too, almost literally, huge tackle count for him.

Mikey Brown · Post by **Mikey Brown** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:05 pm

Danno wrote:Pundits saying our back row made 74 tackles, missing 0.

Fat, small, slow, lazy and out of position but 74 tackles is good.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:06 pm

Raggs wrote:If Willis couldn't train for me its the right call and that's coming as one of Willis' biggest fans.

He’s got some work to do , but clearly has incentivised the incumbents to work harder!
I’d play him ahead of Underhill. But he needs to get past Earl too.

Epaminondas Pules · Post by **Epaminondas Pules** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:06 pm

Banquo wrote:
Epaminondas Pules wrote:I know Willis can feel slightly hard done by, but jeez Underhill, Curry and Earl were all outstanding.
Billy worked his socks off too, almost literally, huge tackle count for him.

Absolutely. He was excellent in several facets.

JellyHead · Post by **JellyHead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 pm

Our ability to consistently make ground without the ball is amazing.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:16 pm

JellyHead wrote:Our ability to consistently make ground without the ball is amazing.

Yep. Front foot without the ball is a great start point!

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