The 2020 Rugby Cha- Tri Nations, Sort Of... Thread

[J Dory]

Teams up....

All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue, Caleb Clarke, Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c), Akira Ioane, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody. Reserves: Codie Taylor, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, Patrick Tuipulotu, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan.

Argentina: Emiliano Boffelli, Ramiro Moyano, Juan Cruz Mallia, Jeronimo de la Fuente, Santiago Cordero, Nicolas Sanchez, Felipe Ezcurra, Facundo Isa, Marcos Kremer, Pablo Matera, Lucas Paulos, Guido Petti, Santiago Medrano, Julian Montoya, Mayco Vivas. Reserves: Santiago Socino, Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, Lucio Sordoni, Matias Alemanno, Santiago Grondona, Gonzalo Bertranou, Santiago Carreras, Lucas Mensa

Like the look of that ABs team.

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[paddy no 11]

Argentina rotating there not as strong

[cashead]

OK, so Argentina and Australia still have a mathematical chance of winning the Tri Nations.

Argentina, in order to potentially share the title with New Zealand, have to win by 92 points, Australia by 100.

If Argentina win with a 93-point margin, or Australia with a 101-point margin, then they win the title outright.

[Cameo]

Is this the scenario the 6N is scared about re bonus points? Australia or Argentina are likely to win 2 and draw one but still lose the title to NZ who have won two lost two. Doesn't seem quite right. In tournaments this short, I think bonus points should only be a tie breaker if teams are otherwise equal (like away goals).

[Lizard]

Is this the scenario the 6N is scared about re bonus points? Australia or Argentina are likely to win 2 and draw one but still lose the title to NZ who have won two lost two. Doesn't seem quite right. In tournaments this short, I think bonus points should only be a tie breaker if teams are otherwise equal (like away goals).

You've got a point there. 2W, 1L, 1D should beat 2W, 2L every time. But its only fair that a stupid rule goes in our favour for once after the Cricket World Cup final farce.

On the other hand, getting beaten in half your games and ending up with a +64 PD is pretty good.

[zer0]

So how many tests were wasted on Frizell looking like Tarzan and playing like Jane? Hopefully Akira has finally, and rightfully, usurped him as the first-choice blindside. Very much seems to be following the Kaino trajectory, which is great to see. Will also be worthwhile keeping an eye on Grace though.

Also would like to see Sotutu given more opportunities to start at #8 rather than going through this whole song and dance again. Akira/Sotutu is a fantastic combo at the Blues and firmly believe they'll work just as well at test level.

[Doorzetbornandbred]

So how many tests were wasted on Frizell looking like Tarzan and playing like Jane? Hopefully Akira has finally, and rightfully, usurped him as the first-choice blindside. Very much seems to be following the Kaino trajectory, which is great to see. Will also be worthwhile keeping an eye on Grace though.

Also would like to see Sotutu given more opportunities to start at #8 rather than going through this whole song and dance again. Akira/Sotutu is a fantastic combo at the Blues and firmly believe they'll work just as well at test level.

Which brings up the question of who do you drop out of the starting side Cane or Savea?

[zer0]

Let Savea compete for the bench spot with Papali'i in a horses-for-courses setup. Don't think much of Cane as a captain but his front-on defence is great and much needed in test rugby. Savea can come on with ~20 to go and try just go nuts, or use Papali'i if it's a more confrontational/physical encounter.

[morepork]

Not sold on Cane as captain at all, especially when it means jerking around other options that would better do the damage for specific games.

[Lizard]

The fact that are even discussing Cane's place in the starting XV suggests he should not be captain. You need a dead cert first pick to be skipper. That means Coles, Whitelock (for now), Aaron Smith (although you'd rather have the C on the field for the full 80), or B Barrett (but only if he was playing 10 - you can't captain from fullback).

Personally, I'd give the job to Whitelock until the XV is a bit more settled.

[cashead]

Dude was the most consistent player out of everyone and was, overall, the best player the All Blacks had.

Whitelock, in comparison, had a very up-and-down tournament.

[Lizard]

Dude was the most consistent player out of everyone and was, overall, the best player the All Blacks had.

Whitelock, in comparison, had a very up-and-down tournament.

[morepork]

Yeah but we have more quality loosies than locks, and Cane is good, but I wouldn't like to see him Ruben Thorn some in form alternative.

[cashead]

Yeah, well, at least we can say Sam Cane doesn't have a history of being a racist shit in public.

[paddy no 11]

the the other 2 like his posts or had their own stuff

Long way back for matera..........if any?

[morepork]

Yeah, well, at least we can say Sam Cane doesn't have a history of being a racist shit in public.

was mumbly bollocks a bit "anti-PC"?

[paddy no 11]

For those that missed it Pablo Matera posted some pretty racist stuff in 2011 which has come to light and been suspended immediately

Petit and socino suspended too but not sure what for exactly

[morepork]

For those that missed it Pablo Matera posted some pretty racist stuff in 2011 which has come to light and been suspended immediately

Petit and socino suspended too but not sure what for exactly

Fark. I did miss that, and so apparently did the Argentina for 9 years....those are some seriously abhorrent media he has there.

[Puja]

For those that missed it Pablo Matera posted some pretty racist stuff in 2011 which has come to light and been suspended immediately

Petit and socino suspended too but not sure what for exactly

Fark. I did miss that, and so apparently did the Argentina for 9 years....those are some seriously abhorrent media he has there.

I saw the headlines and went, "Oh come on, it was 9 years ago and I'm sure it can't have been that ba... oh."

Guess we now know why he struggled to settle in Leicester back then!

Puja

[Digby]

Yeah, well, at least we can say Sam Cane doesn't have a history of being a racist shit in public.

Because he does it in private?

[cashead]

Yeah, well, at least we can say Sam Cane doesn't have a history of being a racist shit in public.

Because he does it in private?

Fuck off.

[Banquo]

For those that missed it Pablo Matera posted some pretty racist stuff in 2011 which has come to light and been suspended immediately

Petit and socino suspended too but not sure what for exactly

Fark. I did miss that, and so apparently did the Argentina for 9 years....those are some seriously abhorrent media he has there.

I saw the headlines and went, "Oh come on, it was 9 years ago and I'm sure it can't have been that ba... oh."

Guess we now know why he struggled to settle in Leicester back then!

Puja

Ditto. Game over for him.

[Puja]

Fark. I did miss that, and so apparently did the Argentina for 9 years....those are some seriously abhorrent media he has there.

I saw the headlines and went, "Oh come on, it was 9 years ago and I'm sure it can't have been that ba... oh."

Guess we now know why he struggled to settle in Leicester back then!

Puja

Ditto. Game over for him.

I mean, you say that, but: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55170028

Puja

[Banquo]

I saw the headlines and went, "Oh come on, it was 9 years ago and I'm sure it can't have been that ba... oh."

Guess we now know why he struggled to settle in Leicester back then!

Puja

Ditto. Game over for him.

I mean, you say that, but: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55170028

Puja

dear lord. Thats a disgrace.

[morepork]

What a progression union they have.