I did not know that. I watched an interview where Baxter mentioned his decision to not have surgery as entirely the player's but I do not remember any mention of the Lions. Fair enough, then.
Think you kind of have to accept that the Lions is the pinnacle of most GB and I players aspirations/career.
Above the RWC?
other than winning it, yes. And its not like you have to choose one or the other. And if you are welsh, scottish or irish....
Think you kind of have to accept that the Lions is the pinnacle of most GB and I players aspirations/career.
Above the RWC?
other than winning it, yes. And its not like you have to choose one or the other. And if you are welsh, scottish or irish....
Fair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
Oakboy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:30 pmFair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
Unfortunately, they'd just point towards your own point, of the RWC (I know, you did say "acknowledged")
Oakboy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:30 pmFair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
Unfortunately, they'd just point towards your own point, of the RWC (I know, you did say "acknowledged")
Again, fair comment. The NH's one RWC win is unlikely to be repeated until things change so I just have to accept it, I suppose. It was a massive shame that France could not win the last one to disturb the status quo.
other than winning it, yes. And its not like you have to choose one or the other. And if you are welsh, scottish or irish....
Fair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
I think its gone well beyond that- its just a brilliant event for players and supporters, and something different from the somewhat relentless grind, which probably feels a bit joyless for players and coaches. The Pro era has done its best to suck all the fun out of Rugby
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:07 pm
other than winning it, yes. And its not like you have to choose one or the other. And if you are welsh, scottish or irish....
Fair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
I think its gone well beyond that- its just a brilliant event for players and supporters, and something different from the somewhat relentless grind, which probably feels a bit joyless for players and coaches. The Pro era has done its best to suck all the fun out of Rugby
OK. I don't get it but I accept that's the way it is.
I thought professional sport was about winning. If ever I get to talk to BOD, I'll ask if he thought it was 'fun' when two NZ players tried to use him as a tent peg. That's the difference for me between NH and SH as things stand and, IMO, it will never change while the Lions continue.
Fair enough, I'll probably never understand it in the professional era. I suppose I just cannot accept the SH's right to declared and acknowledged superiority.
I think its gone well beyond that- its just a brilliant event for players and supporters, and something different from the somewhat relentless grind, which probably feels a bit joyless for players and coaches. The Pro era has done its best to suck all the fun out of Rugby
OK. I don't get it but I accept that's the way it is.
I thought professional sport was about winning. If ever I get to talk to BOD, I'll ask if he thought it was 'fun' when two NZ players tried to use him as a tent peg. That's the difference for me between NH and SH as things stand and, IMO, it will never change while the Lions continue.
That's enough on the subject from me.
It is about winning, but it was always really about the fun for me as a player, as I wasn't a pro. Much more fun when you win.
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:56 pm
lol. Very good, gents.
Yep. Having just read the DT and groaned myself hoarse at the depressing news items, I cIick on here and love the humour.
My 'grumpy old man' status has taken me well past long-haul flights - hassle at airports takes my BP to stratospheric levels. If I was up for travel to the SH, I'd actually prefer to follow the England tour to Argentina rather than support the jamboree in Australia. That probably condemns me to some sort of rugby tradition purgatory but I am an England supporter and proud of it.
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:56 pm
lol. Very good, gents.
Yep. Having just read the DT and groaned myself hoarse at the depressing news items, I cIick on here and love the humour.
My 'grumpy old man' status has taken me well past long-haul flights - hassle at airports takes my BP to stratospheric levels. If I was up for travel to the SH, I'd actually prefer to follow the England tour to Argentina rather than support the jamboree in Australia. That probably condemns me to some sort of rugby tradition purgatory but I am an England supporter and proud of it.
BIL in NZ
Eng rugby in Arg
Eng cricket in the Caribbean
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:56 pm
lol. Very good, gents.
Yep. Having just read the DT and groaned myself hoarse at the depressing news items, I cIick on here and love the humour.
My 'grumpy old man' status has taken me well past long-haul flights - hassle at airports takes my BP to stratospheric levels. If I was up for travel to the SH, I'd actually prefer to follow the England tour to Argentina rather than support the jamboree in Australia. That probably condemns me to some sort of rugby tradition purgatory but I am an England supporter and proud of it.
BIL in NZ
Eng rugby in Arg
Eng cricket in the Caribbean
Yep. Having just read the DT and groaned myself hoarse at the depressing news items, I cIick on here and love the humour.
My 'grumpy old man' status has taken me well past long-haul flights - hassle at airports takes my BP to stratospheric levels. If I was up for travel to the SH, I'd actually prefer to follow the England tour to Argentina rather than support the jamboree in Australia. That probably condemns me to some sort of rugby tradition purgatory but I am an England supporter and proud of it.
BIL in NZ
Eng rugby in Arg
Eng cricket in the Caribbean
There was I thinking it must be Springsteen or similar.
I’m not sure where to go with that
I shouldn't bother. Strange minds (like mine) work strangely and that's all there is to it. I'm a bit slow at recognising switches from humour to serious and vice versa. MB fooled me at that point with seriousness, bless him.