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Sandydragon wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:39 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pm
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.

The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
Not sure I can agree with you on "overstepped the mark." She wasn't looking to help him escape the justice system, but to escape ICE who were looking to deport him without trial.

It is worth noting that "warrant issued by a judge" is not necessarily equivalent to "guilty", especially not in America where judges are political appointments that do not necessarily need to have any experience in the law whatsoever, but even if we assume he is absolutely guilty and an utter piece of trash, he should be getting a trial in front of a jury of his peers. It's very easy to only defend the unequivocally innocent ones, and say "Oh, this one's accused of X and Y so he's trash", but rights have to be for everyone, or anyone can find themselves moved into the "not worthy of due process bucket" at any time.

Her act was definitely illegal. So was hiding people from the Gestapo. I started typing a sentence to say "we're not there yet," bu when ICE is disappearing people to Salvadoran oubliettes for the crime of "having a tattoo and brown skin", I'm not sure the qualifier is appropriate anymore.

Illegal, sure. Not in her duty or responsibilities as a judge, probably. In her position as a human being - that's a solid mark to be stepping up to.

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Despicable and terrifying behaviour from a pro-Israel mob, hounding a woman in New York:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ases-woman

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/29/us/c ... index.html



No sign of this on the main news shows. Imagine if a pro-Palestine mob had done the same.

Or imagine the NYPD's reaction if this had been a mob of black men.
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Puja wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:59 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:39 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pm
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.

The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
Not sure I can agree with you on "overstepped the mark." She wasn't looking to help him escape the justice system, but to escape ICE who were looking to deport him without trial.

It is worth noting that "warrant issued by a judge" is not necessarily equivalent to "guilty", especially not in America where judges are political appointments that do not necessarily need to have any experience in the law whatsoever, but even if we assume he is absolutely guilty and an utter piece of trash, he should be getting a trial in front of a jury of his peers. It's very easy to only defend the unequivocally innocent ones, and say "Oh, this one's accused of X and Y so he's trash", but rights have to be for everyone, or anyone can find themselves moved into the "not worthy of due process bucket" at any time.

Her act was definitely illegal. So was hiding people from the Gestapo. I started typing a sentence to say "we're not there yet," bu when ICE is disappearing people to Salvadoran oubliettes for the crime of "having a tattoo and brown skin", I'm not sure the qualifier is appropriate anymore.

Illegal, sure. Not in her duty or responsibilities as a judge, probably. In her position as a human being - that's a solid mark to be stepping up to.

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But doing illegal things tends to get you arrested. The conscience bit usually comes at a trial. She wasn’t arrested for a judgement she handed down, but for doing something that was illegal. That’s the point. Thus not so unexpected
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https://bsky.app/profile/sonic.bsky.soc ... m2zwmra22a

Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."

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Puja wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 4:24 pm https://bsky.app/profile/sonic.bsky.soc ... m2zwmra22a

Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."

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Puha, what is this? Can’t view the vid here?
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Puja wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 4:24 pm https://bsky.app/profile/sonic.bsky.soc ... m2zwmra22a

Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."

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Hilarious. For once I support Piers Morgan. And I suspect it will only be the once.
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“Puha”. Sorry mate. You can’t take Aotearoa out of the boy.
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morepork wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 7:00 pm
Puja wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 4:24 pm https://bsky.app/profile/sonic.bsky.soc ... m2zwmra22a

Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."

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Puha, what is this? Can’t view the vid here?
Have found a slightly worse copy on youtube just for you:



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Thanks mate. Jesus titty fucking Christ . What an unprepared ignorant grifting Thundercunt.
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Stockholm rejects ‘bizarre’ US letter urging city to scrap diversity initiatives

Should probably proactively investigate some of their bigger MAGA companies over hear (start with Tesla).
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Great way to depress tourism, JD. Hope the teams don't mind playing to empty stadiums. You'd have to be pretty football crazy to go and risk watching the matches from a detention centre. Or El Salvador jail.

I do hope this fucks their world cup.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 10:26 amGreat way to depress tourism, JD. Hope the teams don't mind playing to empty stadiums. You'd have to be pretty football crazy to go and risk watching the matches from a detention centre. Or El Salvador jail.

I do hope this fucks their world cup.
Never fear, there are enough rapid-fans out there who will go watch their team anyway. And enough idiots out there who think it's only "bad hombres" to have to be worried, the "them" not the "us" - even if the "us" is a "them" to ICE
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Which Tyler wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:14 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 10:26 amGreat way to depress tourism, JD. Hope the teams don't mind playing to empty stadiums. You'd have to be pretty football crazy to go and risk watching the matches from a detention centre. Or El Salvador jail.

I do hope this fucks their world cup.
Never fear, there are enough rapid-fans out there who will go watch their team anyway. And enough idiots out there who think it's only "bad hombres" to have to be worried, the "them" not the "us" - even if the "us" is a "them" to ICE
Reckon anyone who uses the word hombre is at high risk entering the USA for the foreseeable!

Yeah, they'll probably get some people in but they'll have to give the tickets away. Or round up the homeless.

Annoying timing, though. Trump will have the football world cup and the Olympics. As a silver lining we can watch him getting pissed off* at all the diverse athletes winning gold, just like Berlin 1936.


* or pretending to enjoy.
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Are there any South Africans on here that can clarify the optics of this move?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... cans-trump
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morepork wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 11:45 pm Are there any South Africans on here that can clarify the optics of this move?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... cans-trump
It's certainly interesting that he says there's a genocide going on in South Africa but not in Gaza.

Maybe he should bring a case to the ICJ.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 12:18 am
morepork wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 11:45 pm Are there any South Africans on here that can clarify the optics of this move?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... cans-trump
It's certainly interesting that he says there's a genocide going on in South Africa but not in Gaza.

Maybe he should bring a case to the ICJ.
I had not made that connection :oops:. I had assumed this was about American politics and that South Africa was a random selection of punching bag - that this was a mixture of Trump's mental deterioration confusing various African countries and decades, combined with looking to confuse the refugee issue by finding and obsessing over the whitest, blondest haired "refugees", combined with the horror of a country where rich white people have had to give up a mild amount of power and privilege to the poorer majority.

Had not made the connection that SA were the ones leading the ICJ case against Israel's genocide and thus this propaganda to traduce them and muddy the waters is probably the main point, with the rest of it being a side-effect.

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Puja wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 1:50 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 12:18 am
morepork wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 11:45 pm Are there any South Africans on here that can clarify the optics of this move?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... cans-trump
It's certainly interesting that he says there's a genocide going on in South Africa but not in Gaza.

Maybe he should bring a case to the ICJ.
I had not made that connection :oops:. I had assumed this was about American politics and that South Africa was a random selection of punching bag - that this was a mixture of Trump's mental deterioration confusing various African countries and decades, combined with looking to confuse the refugee issue by finding and obsessing over the whitest, blondest haired "refugees", combined with the horror of a country where rich white people have had to give up a mild amount of power and privilege to the poorer majority.

Had not made the connection that SA were the ones leading the ICJ case against Israel's genocide and thus this propaganda to traduce them and muddy the waters is probably the main point, with the rest of it being a side-effect.

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They're the most well-fed, best dressed and generally unharrowed looking genocide victims I've ever seen. ;)

No doubt Trump will fool a section of his ignorant MAGA base with this (those who will not question why they haven't seen any images of dead, white children coming out of South Africa) but the blatant lying and stunning inversion of this description might open a few eyes. Like there are many who've willingly fooled themselves that what Israel is doing is self-defense who might get a bit of cognitive dissonance trying to convince themselves that there's really a South African genocide in progress on top of the non-genocide in Gaza. If you've mentally raised the bar for genocide so high that Gaza isn't one, believing that there's one happening in South Africa is a bit of a tough sell.
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Ah this is Musk's brainwave without doubt and it just works perfectly for the don and his loopers
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https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... has-a-job/?
Hegseth is a liability in every possible sense. So why is he still here? The leading explanation—that Trump doesn’t want to appear acquiescent to liberal demands—carried a lot more weight before the administration canned national security adviser and fellow Signal enthusiast Mike Waltz. Some think this is the first of many Signal-­related firings and that Hegseth will be next. Personally, I doubt it. Trump clearly did not pick Hegseth for his leadership skills, or his experience, or his ability to keep track of classified information. Trump picked Hegseth because both men believe the military is a threat to the regime’s authoritarian ambitions and must be neutralized, purged, and remade in Trump’s own image.

Like Trump, Hegseth believes the military has been compromised by the left-wing “enemy within.” His opposition to women in combat roles and the alleged pussification of Our Boys in Uniform are part of something far larger than the typical culture-war grift. He understands that if the commander in chief were to, say, invoke the Insurrection Act and order the military to round up immigrants on American soil, the Pentagon might say no. His idea of Making America Great Again involves changing that “no” into a “yes,” and he’s working hard to make that happen.
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Which Tyler wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 7:23 pm https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... has-a-job/?
Hegseth is a liability in every possible sense. So why is he still here? The leading explanation—that Trump doesn’t want to appear acquiescent to liberal demands—carried a lot more weight before the administration canned national security adviser and fellow Signal enthusiast Mike Waltz. Some think this is the first of many Signal-­related firings and that Hegseth will be next. Personally, I doubt it. Trump clearly did not pick Hegseth for his leadership skills, or his experience, or his ability to keep track of classified information. Trump picked Hegseth because both men believe the military is a threat to the regime’s authoritarian ambitions and must be neutralized, purged, and remade in Trump’s own image.

Like Trump, Hegseth believes the military has been compromised by the left-wing “enemy within.” His opposition to women in combat roles and the alleged pussification of Our Boys in Uniform are part of something far larger than the typical culture-war grift. He understands that if the commander in chief were to, say, invoke the Insurrection Act and order the military to round up immigrants on American soil, the Pentagon might say no. His idea of Making America Great Again involves changing that “no” into a “yes,” and he’s working hard to make that happen.
One glimmer of hope is that Hegseth is such an undisciplined idiot he can't be earning much respect from the actual military, which would make it harder for him to persuade them to act unconstitutionally.
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DOJ 'weaponization' group will shame individuals it can't charge with crimes, new head says
As Jeanine Pirro prepares to become U.S. attorney in D.C., Trump loyalist Ed Martin is taking over the Justice Department's effort to investigate Trump's investigators.

So if you've done nothing wrong, but it hurt Donald's ego, then you'll be named and shamed, and we'll let Trumps' vigilantes do their thing - they've been pardoned once already, after all.
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Which Tyler wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 7:26 am DOJ 'weaponization' group will shame individuals it can't charge with crimes, new head says
As Jeanine Pirro prepares to become U.S. attorney in D.C., Trump loyalist Ed Martin is taking over the Justice Department's effort to investigate Trump's investigators.

So if you've done nothing wrong, but it hurt Donald's ego, then you'll be named and shamed, and we'll let Trumps' vigilantes do their thing - they've been pardoned once already, after all.
Trump will get his revenge, one way or another, court of law or court of public opinion.
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