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I thought the US had more lawyers per square foot than any other country. If what Musk is doing at various agencies is illegal - eg because the agencies were set up by congress so the President has no power to shut them down - why isn't someone, eg the Democrats, launching a lawsuit to prevent it??

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... adquarters


At least the unions have taken this action because the data grab by Musk seems to shatter the Privacy Act and some other legislation:

https://therecord.media/union-groups-su ... ss-to-data

It's possible that a class action could be taken on behalf of the whole US population to sue for the theft of their data.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:35 am I thought the US had more lawyers per square foot than any other country. If what Musk is doing at various agencies is illegal - eg because the agencies were set up by congress so the President has no power to shut them down - why isn't someone, eg the Democrats, launching a lawsuit to prevent it??

A] They are
B] It takes time to then reach court
C] It then gets bumped up to more senior courts, and things like this, probably as far as the Supreme court
D] Trump stacked the courts (not just the SC) with his lickspittles last time out
E] The Supreme Court has already (in essence) said "If the president does it, it's not illegal"

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:26 am

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:35 am I thought the US had more lawyers per square foot than any other country. If what Musk is doing at various agencies is illegal - eg because the agencies were set up by congress so the President has no power to shut them down - why isn't someone, eg the Democrats, launching a lawsuit to prevent it??

A] They are
B] It takes time to then reach court
C] It then gets bumped up to more senior courts, and things like this, probably as far as the Supreme court
D] Trump stacked the courts (not just the SC) with his lickspittles last time out
E] The Supreme Court has already (in essence) said "If the president does it, it's not illegal"

Yes, that is the really scary thing. That if they do fight it, it will just end up with the Supreme Court writing this power grab into law*.

That country is fucked.


* NB I hope there is some way to do this that wouldn't end up before the SC but am far too ignorant of US law to know.

Is Morepork still alive? Has this whole debacle seen him off?

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:00 pm Is Morepork still alive? Has this whole debacle seen him off?

Pretty much.

Tesla car sales plunge across the world. Not surprising. And that'll hit him where it really hurts.

https://thedriven.io/2025/02/05/tesla-s ... k-problem/

morepork wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:02 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:00 pm Is Morepork still alive? Has this whole debacle seen him off?

Pretty much.

Well that's something. Are you past even needing to vent on here?

morepork wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:02 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:00 pm Is Morepork still alive? Has this whole debacle seen him off?

Pretty much.

Fair enough. I find the Trump/Musk double act scary enough from my side of the Atlantic.

Interesting podcast on the Trump/Musk agenda here:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/ ... government

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:36 am

morepork wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:02 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:00 pm Is Morepork still alive? Has this whole debacle seen him off?

Pretty much.

Well that's something. Are you past even needing to vent on here?

I think MP is busy swatting sandflies.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:44 am

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:34 am Moving on from a discussion where no-one's going to convince the other...

Trump's next landgrab
https://us.cnn.com/2025/02/04/politics/ ... index.html
Use US troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza, and then have it as a US vassal.

'We'll own it' and 'long term ownership'. So he's actually talking about annexing it for the US, not Israel. No way would Netanyahu be happy with that. Maybe he's just cut a deal where Donald Trump becomes owner of significant parts of the strip? Or it could be a Hong Kong type thing where the US gives it to Israel after a very long period.

Anyway, what a piece of shit war criminal.

Not sure how having US troops coming back in bodybags is going to go down with Trump's supporters though.

Kushner was talking about redeveloping Gaza over a year ago during a talk at Harvard.

J Dory wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:18 pm

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:44 am

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:34 am Moving on from a discussion where no-one's going to convince the other...

Trump's next landgrab
https://us.cnn.com/2025/02/04/politics/ ... index.html
Use US troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza, and then have it as a US vassal.

'We'll own it' and 'long term ownership'. So he's actually talking about annexing it for the US, not Israel. No way would Netanyahu be happy with that. Maybe he's just cut a deal where Donald Trump becomes owner of significant parts of the strip? Or it could be a Hong Kong type thing where the US gives it to Israel after a very long period.

Anyway, what a piece of shit war criminal.

Not sure how having US troops coming back in bodybags is going to go down with Trump's supporters though.

Kushner was talking about redeveloping Gaza over a year ago during a talk at Harvard.

Yep. Jared Kushner, another empathy-free life form.

Puja wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:49 pm Jared Kushner finding a new low: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... rael-negev

Puja

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:32 am Tesla car sales plunge across the world. Not surprising. And that'll hit him where it really hurts.

https://thedriven.io/2025/02/05/tesla-s ... k-problem/

I guess what's keeping Tesla shares from crashing is the suspicion that it's just one Donald Trump whim (or Elon Musk whim) away from a multi-billion dollar contract to build America a fleet of electric tanks or driverless aircraft carriers or whatever the fuck it takes to keep it from insolvency.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:24 pm

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:32 am Tesla car sales plunge across the world. Not surprising. And that'll hit him where it really hurts.

https://thedriven.io/2025/02/05/tesla-s ... k-problem/

I guess what's keeping Tesla shares from crashing is the suspicion that it's just one Donald Trump whim (or Elon Musk whim) away from a multi-billion dollar contract to build America a fleet of electric tanks or driverless aircraft carriers or whatever the fuck it takes to keep it from insolvency.

Absolutely, the glory of the free market eh

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:24 pm

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:32 am Tesla car sales plunge across the world. Not surprising. And that'll hit him where it really hurts.

https://thedriven.io/2025/02/05/tesla-s ... k-problem/

I guess what's keeping Tesla shares from crashing is the suspicion that it's just one Donald Trump whim (or Elon Musk whim) away from a multi-billion dollar contract to build America a fleet of electric tanks or driverless aircraft carriers or whatever the fuck it takes to keep it from insolvency.

Well, judging based on the ONE vehicle Musk has designed, the Swasticar, and its legion of problems, it'll be a massive net negative to the US military.

Military vehicles are supposed to blow up the other guys, aren't they? not your own side?

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:52 pm Military vehicles are supposed to blow up the other guys, aren't they? not your own side?

Well, this is America… I just remember there was a time on the afghan war when more British troops had been killed by Americans than by the taliban…

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:56 pm

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:24 pm

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:32 am Tesla car sales plunge across the world. Not surprising. And that'll hit him where it really hurts.

https://thedriven.io/2025/02/05/tesla-s ... k-problem/

I guess what's keeping Tesla shares from crashing is the suspicion that it's just one Donald Trump whim (or Elon Musk whim) away from a multi-billion dollar contract to build America a fleet of electric tanks or driverless aircraft carriers or whatever the fuck it takes to keep it from insolvency.

Absolutely, the glory of the free market eh

I'd suggest more mad products but I can't think of anything too mad for these lunatics.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:50 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:26 am

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:35 am I thought the US had more lawyers per square foot than any other country. If what Musk is doing at various agencies is illegal - eg because the agencies were set up by congress so the President has no power to shut them down - why isn't someone, eg the Democrats, launching a lawsuit to prevent it??

A] They are
B] It takes time to then reach court
C] It then gets bumped up to more senior courts, and things like this, probably as far as the Supreme court
D] Trump stacked the courts (not just the SC) with his lickspittles last time out
E] The Supreme Court has already (in essence) said "If the president does it, it's not illegal"

Yes, that is the really scary thing. That if they do fight it, it will just end up with the Supreme Court writing this power grab into law*.

That country is fucked.


* NB I hope there is some way to do this that wouldn't end up before the SC but am far too ignorant of US law to know.

More on this:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -democracy

The dismantling of democracy:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -autocracy

What's he got left to do? Suppress liberal news media. Arrest/intimidate/beat up political rivals. Really fix the elections in time for the mid-terms. When it comes to 2028 will he simply stand again and wait for any objections to be shot down by the supreme court? Assuming there's anyone brave enough to object by that point.

So, the gutting of the USAID programmes and the Inflation Reduction Act has had wide reaching consequences, including those in the agricultural sector - who overwhelmingly voted for Trump by a 3:1 ratio.

Meanwhile, deregulation has also caused the US to become the only "developed" (lol) country where H5N1 is ripping through cow herds, because it is legal to feed cows chicken shit.


Them face-eating leopards will be eating like kings for a while.

cashead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:32 am So, the gutting of the USAID programmes and the Inflation Reduction Act has had wide reaching consequences, including those in the agricultural sector - who overwhelmingly voted for Trump by a 3:1 ratio.

Meanwhile, deregulation has also caused the US to become the only "developed" (lol) country where H5N1 is ripping through cow herds, because it is legal to feed cows chicken shit.


Them face-eating leopards will be eating like kings for a while.

Can you ladybird this leopard thing please

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:12 am

cashead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:32 am So, the gutting of the USAID programmes and the Inflation Reduction Act has had wide reaching consequences, including those in the agricultural sector - who overwhelmingly voted for Trump by a 3:1 ratio.

Meanwhile, deregulation has also caused the US to become the only "developed" (lol) country where H5N1 is ripping through cow herds, because it is legal to feed cows chicken shit.


Them face-eating leopards will be eating like kings for a while.

Can you ladybird this leopard thing please

It comes off the back of a 2015 tweet that became a meme:


Incidentally, I found the screengrab off this blog, which makes a good point about it being funny, but not useful in making change: https://www.tumblr.com/earlgraytay/1747 ... by-now-you

Puja

Thanks for that, agree with that post aswell

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:23 am

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:12 am

cashead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:32 am So, the gutting of the USAID programmes and the Inflation Reduction Act has had wide reaching consequences, including those in the agricultural sector - who overwhelmingly voted for Trump by a 3:1 ratio.

Meanwhile, deregulation has also caused the US to become the only "developed" (lol) country where H5N1 is ripping through cow herds, because it is legal to feed cows chicken shit.


Them face-eating leopards will be eating like kings for a while.

Can you ladybird this leopard thing please

It comes off the back of a 2015 tweet that became a meme:


Incidentally, I found the screengrab off this blog, which makes a good point about it being funny, but not useful in making change: https://www.tumblr.com/earlgraytay/1747 ... by-now-you

Puja

Thanks. I was almost at the point of asking for a translation.