That's a fair point. As you say the atrocities suggest that plenty of Russian soldiers are quite prepared to see Ukrainians as undeserving of any respect. Equally, Putinism isnt just him. A bit like Nazism wasn't just confined to the top level of German government, or Communism in Russia for that matter, the support for Russia's nationalist aims is more widespread, which is why I don't think Putin suddenly dying (whilst in itself something to celebrate) wouldn't stop this war or future aggression.Zhivago wrote:I admit I shouldn't have posted the video, it was crass.Puja wrote:JFC Zhiv. It's not a sporting event where we're just cheering on our team - those are real actual people, general soldiers who probably don't have the first clue about the greater situation and who aren't the decision-makers, and you're excitedly sharing a video of them dying. What the fuck.morepork wrote:
That's some ugly shit to post on a rugby forum chief.
Puja
I would like to discuss this point that you're trying to make though. It sounds like you have the opinion that only the Russian leadership bear responsibility for this war, and Russian soldiers and citizenry are completely in the dark about the whole situation and do not understand what is going on. This is in my opinion very far from reality.
There is plenty of evidence that they know full well the situation they are in (excepting only perhaps that some of the citizenry don't understand that Russia is losing). It stands to reason that if they didn't understand the situation (and in particular that Russia is losing), they wouldn't be fleeing from Kherson over these pontoons.
When Kherson is liberated it will be revealed that the atrocities exceeded those in Bucha. My sympathy does not extend to such brutes.
Yes the Russian population are being lied to and many don't get to see another news source.But the grievance tale that Putin is relying on is too widespread.