So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:24 pmHe hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.Puja wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:40 pmWhat exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.
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Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:20 pmSo he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:24 pmHe hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.Puja wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:40 pm
What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.
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Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.
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Public opinion is not with him.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:24 pmMaybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:20 pmSo he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:24 pm
He hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.
Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.
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Is heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outsidemorepork wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:00 pmPublic opinion is not with him.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:24 pmMaybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:20 pm
So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?
Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.
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Sorry. To be clear I was referring to his base. They seem to like the idea of alleged gang members being disappeared to El Salvador. Some will probably not care if he does defy the courts but some seem to regard the constitution as sacred and might not approve. Trump won’t give a toss about upsetting Democratspaddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:22 pmIs heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outsidemorepork wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:00 pmPublic opinion is not with him.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:24 pm
Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.
Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.
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His core MAGA supporters will stay true for a long time, even through the recession he's doing his best to generate. But there will be a bunch of Trump '24 voters who will not stay with him in the face of rising prices, rising unemployment, stagnation. Whether the Dems can inspire them is another matter. Or if they'll have a free and fair election in '26 and '28, that's another matter in the balance.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:54 pm :Sorry. To be clear I was referring to his base. They seem to like the idea of alleged gang members being disappeared to El Salvador. Some will probably not care if he does defy the courts but some seem to regard the constitution as sacred and might not approve. Trump won’t give a toss about upsetting Democratspaddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:22 pmIs heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outside
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9-0 in the Republican dominated Supreme Court, but Dictator says no.
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That really is two fingers up to the Supreme Court.
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Ikr? Plus Coney Barrett actually acting like the law mattered. It must be really egregious if even the puppet turns against it.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:34 pmThe real shocker is Clarence not being a complete idiot for once and voting against trump
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Consent is a bit too woke for this lot.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:32 pm WTF?
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I guess encouraging people not to rape eachother is now the domain of the thought police and big government.
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I’m curious how different communities may have different views on consent.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:37 pmConsent is a bit too woke for this lot.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:32 pm WTF?
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Like the Weinstein community vs the Vatican
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I think the clash may occur because teaching consent properly invalidates their cultural belief that a wife is the inalienable property of her husband (as with all things in that culture, offer available to whites only).Sandydragon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:47 pmI’m curious how different communities may have different views on consent.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:37 pmConsent is a bit too woke for this lot.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:32 pm WTF?
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It's good to hear the rebellion is active MP, not something we necessarily see from afar. I've always believed America wouldn't take this shit, but the initial speed with which they've been able to progress their agenda has been disturbing.
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What sort of guest would I be if I didn’t join the fray? It’s rapidly becoming front and centre, no matter what your day job is. Kia Kaha.
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Was only a matter of time - not to diminish what a horrible development this
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She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:53 pm US judge arrested after allegedly obstructing ICE agents
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It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pmShe wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:53 pm US judge arrested after allegedly obstructing ICE agents
The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.