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Such noble priorities.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:37 pm
Consent is a bit too woke for this lot.
I’m curious how different communities may have different views on consent.
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Like the Weinstein community vs the Vatican
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Sandydragon wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:47 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:37 pm
Consent is a bit too woke for this lot.
I’m curious how different communities may have different views on consent.
I think the clash may occur because teaching consent properly invalidates their cultural belief that a wife is the inalienable property of her husband (as with all things in that culture, offer available to whites only).

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It's good to hear the rebellion is active MP, not something we necessarily see from afar. I've always believed America wouldn't take this shit, but the initial speed with which they've been able to progress their agenda has been disturbing.
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What sort of guest would I be if I didn’t join the fray? It’s rapidly becoming front and centre, no matter what your day job is. Kia Kaha.
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Was only a matter of time - not to diminish what a horrible development this
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She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pm
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.

The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
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Sandydragon wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:39 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pm
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.

The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
Not sure I can agree with you on "overstepped the mark." She wasn't looking to help him escape the justice system, but to escape ICE who were looking to deport him without trial.

It is worth noting that "warrant issued by a judge" is not necessarily equivalent to "guilty", especially not in America where judges are political appointments that do not necessarily need to have any experience in the law whatsoever, but even if we assume he is absolutely guilty and an utter piece of trash, he should be getting a trial in front of a jury of his peers. It's very easy to only defend the unequivocally innocent ones, and say "Oh, this one's accused of X and Y so he's trash", but rights have to be for everyone, or anyone can find themselves moved into the "not worthy of due process bucket" at any time.

Her act was definitely illegal. So was hiding people from the Gestapo. I started typing a sentence to say "we're not there yet," bu when ICE is disappearing people to Salvadoran oubliettes for the crime of "having a tattoo and brown skin", I'm not sure the qualifier is appropriate anymore.

Illegal, sure. Not in her duty or responsibilities as a judge, probably. In her position as a human being - that's a solid mark to be stepping up to.

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Despicable and terrifying behaviour from a pro-Israel mob, hounding a woman in New York:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ases-woman

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/29/us/c ... index.html



No sign of this on the main news shows. Imagine if a pro-Palestine mob had done the same.

Or imagine the NYPD's reaction if this had been a mob of black men.
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